10 Golden Rules to Survive Safeguarding

When you are a parent going through Child Protection Proceedings, you will do and say anything to have your children returned to you. The pain of separation is so great, it can be overwhelming at times. When my newborn was removed, I desperately searched the internet for advice, guidance, someone…anyone to listen. I was very vulnerable, as are all parents at these times, and regularly came across “Don’t speak to Social Workers”, “Don’t engage”, “Tape record everything” from people who had already lost their children.

I was very lucky; I had a strong network of support around me and, with their help, was able to snorkel my way through the pool of bad advice found on the internet. I felt compelled to write this piece as an antidote to this, and in an attempt to offer parents another viewpoint from one who has been there, and successfully so.

Rule Number One
How to win your case
I am often asked by parents going through Proceedings how I succeeded in my newborn’s case. Unfortunately, not many of those parents are then willing to take on board the answer. The reality is, there is no “quick fix”. There is no magic wand, no one case law, no “freeman/common law” that is going to help to have your children returned to your care. I often see “admit nothing!” and I have to say, I cringe.
The best advice I can give a parent is this:
Look at your behaviour. Yes, it’s very uncomfortable, and it hurts. But genuinely look at the way you have behaved and see if you are able to admit that you have been at fault and made mistakes. I don’t doubt that the LA have also made mistakes in your case, but forget that for a moment and look inwards. Identify the parts of your parenting that are not “good enough”. Be totally honest with yourself. This is not about anything other than your children, keep that in mind at all times. Only when you have identified your mistakes can you hope to accept them, put them right and change. I intend to expand on this particular issue in a later post, but for now, that really is the way I had my newborn returned to my care. I identified where I had been going wrong, and I worked my backside off to put it right. Yes, of course, there were other factors, but that was the main one. The bottom line is, if you maintain you have done “nothing wrong” (I hear that regularly), you almost certainly will lose your children.

Rule Number Two
The best way to survive the worst day of your lives
There is never an easy way for children to be removed from home. Whether it is by consent (where you sign a Section 20), or by force (by an Interim Care Order, Emergency Protection Order, or Police Protection), it is always distressing for everyone concerned. It is almost pointless to advise any parent on this, as – having been there myself – it is one of the most traumatic experiences of your life. However, I have heard advice that parents should tell children to resist Social Workers or Police Officers removing them from the care of their parents. I have to say, for the children’s sake, this is a very bad move. Put yourself in your children’s shoes; you are being removed from everything you know and made to live with people you’ve never met in a house you’ve never seen. I would say this – don’t make it any more difficult for your children than it already is. Stay as calm as possible (I know…I know), tell your children you love them very much, and make sure they have special toys with them – like a comforter or a teddy bear, a favourite book or a doll. If there’s time, give them a photograph of you all together to take with them. Above all, don’t make any promises, because at that stage, you don’t know when you’ll see them again, you don’t know when they’ll be home. Just tell them you love them and you will do whatever you need to do for them.

Rule Number Three
Unexpected visitors
If your children are currently in Foster Care, regardless of any Orders or lack thereof, it is likely they will be feeling upset, confused and anxious. Of course, they will miss you, as their parent, and of course they will want to be with you and come home. However, there is a difference between “want” and “need”. It is never advisable to encourage children to leave their Placement, unaccompanied and without warning and come to you. As much as it hurts, and I understand that pain more than anyone,  children need consistency, and for the adults to take the lead. If your children do “turn up” unannounced, or contact you unexpectedly, I would always advise you, as their parent, let the Foster Carers and/or Social Workers know. One of my children turned up unannounced, having argued with their Foster Carer one day some time ago. I contacted the Foster Carer who was frantic with worry and about to ring the Police, reassured them my child was safe and made arrangements for the Carer to collect once I had sat with my child and talked through the reasons for their upset. It wasn’t that I didn’t want my child to stay, but that it wasn’t about what wanted, but what was best.
On similar lines, it is never advisable to turn up at your children’s school, or placement in an effort to see them. Whilst this might help you as their parent,  it is very likely to cause upset and confusion for your child, and panic and concern amongst the professionals. I used to live for my contact days, and would have given anything for even just a glimpse outside of those strict times. However, I know that had I taken matters in to my own hands, all it would have done was provided the LA with more evidence that I could not prioritise my children over my own needs.

Rule Number Four
Be careful what you say…and not for obvious reasons
If your children are in Foster Care, it is likely you will see them only at specified times and under supervision, by the LA, contact centre workers, or family members. Certainly my experience of contact supervised by the LA has been that everything of importance that is said is recorded, sometimes by a contact supervisor literally sitting with a notepad in front of you and your children. I can’t say that this is anything other than deeply unnatural and unpleasant, and many parents find it very difficult to attend contact as a result. I know at times, I really struggled to attend, not because I didn’t want to see my children, but solely because the pressure of being stared at and everything you say or do recorded and then picked over is extremely difficult to handle.
At times, my children begged me to take them home. At times, my children sobbed and wailed and at other times they were very angry with me that I couldn’t just take them home. At times they asked very difficult questions: “why can’t we come home?”, “why are (three children) home and we aren’t?”, “why can’t we see you more?”. During one contact session, one of my children referred to themselves as “Council Property”, because they were in Care. These questions, these contact sessions, made me feel so angry with the LA and at times I had to fight my impulses to react, to say how much I hated my children being in Foster Care, that I was jealous of the Carers, that I felt the LA weren’t committed in any way to keeping my family together. The main reason I didn’t? Because I absolutely did not want my children to be any unhappier than they already were. I didn’t want them to feel divided loyalties, I didn’t want them to have to carry my pain at our separation as a burden. Yes, as an aside, the LA would have used anything I said as evidence I was prioritising my own feelings and needs over that of my children, but to be honest, that didn’t matter as much as making sure my children felt secure in their placement. I didn’t want them to be there, but we genuinely had no other option at the time, so what was I, as a Mother, to do?
So. When you are in contact, and your children ask painful questions, think of them first and last and how your answer will affect them. Of course they need to know you miss them and you want them to be at home with you, but they also need to know it’s ok for them to feel secure and happy with their Foster Carers and that you support them. Vent to your family, your friends, your lawyer, but try your very best to be careful what you say to your children.

Rule Number Five
Lawyers V Litigants in Person
If the Local Authority initiate Care Proceedings, you are automatically entitled to Legal Aid. This then allows you free legal advice and representation in Court. I have heard much advice on forgoing this representation and acting as Litigant In Person (LiP), and it is true that there are benefits to this. However, having acted in Person preparing Applications, Court bundles, statements and evidence, and having had a lawyer, I can tell you that it is significantly easier with a lawyer, than without. It is absolutely the case, in my experience anyway, that there are certain lawyers who will not work as hard for you, and others who will fight tooth and nail. It shouldn’t be like that, but it is.
If you want representation: I would advise seeking out a lawyer either out of the area, or one who acts in the main for parents, or Guardians.
If you want to act LiP: I would strongly advise using a Mackenzie Friend with a good reputation and reading Lucy Reed’s book “The Family Court Without A Lawyer”.
Reading this Guest Post by Sarah Phillimore on how to get the best out of your lawyer will also help, in my humble opinion.

Rule Number Six
Signing your life away…
If you are asked to sign a Section 20, or any kind of documentation at all, I would always advise having that documentation looked over first by a legal representative. When you sign such a document, you are told that you will retain 100% Parental Responsibility for your children, however, the reality is that you cannot realistically withdraw your consent thereafter and expect to have your children returned. Rightly so, the LA will want to see that the reason you signed in the first place is not going to be repeated. I have signed a Section 20 for two of my children before and, whilst it was entirely the right decision at the time and there was nothing else I could have done, I didn’t truly know the implications of what I was signing. Shortly after, the LA initiated Care Proceedings anyway, and what I found was that the S20 was used as a bit of a bargaining tool, if I withdrew my consent not only did the LA state they would apply for an Interim Care Order, but I was also advised by my lawyer that it would provide evidence that I was not cooperating with the LA. In conclusion, whilst sometimes there is no other option but a S20, I would advise thinking very carefully and getting some legal advice before you do so.

Rule Number Seven
Escaping abroad
This is a massively contentious issue and has been the subject of television documentaries and newspaper articles. It’s a difficult one for me, because I was in the position where I was pregnant, and in Proceedings with my other children. I was informed at an Initial Child Protection Conference at 8 months pregnant that the LA would be making an Application to Court to have my baby removed from my care at birth on a future risk of emotional harm. Of course I wanted to run, God did I not! I couldn’t bear the thought of them taking my baby. And certain quarters made it sound so easy! “Go to Ireland, get a house, have your baby, they can’t touch you, they’ll help keep your family together”.
It did used to be like that but things have changed in Ireland as a result of 700+ families a year fleeing abroad to escape the Local Authorities. The Irish economy has suffered and it’s not as easy to make a life unless you have plenty of money and contacts over there who are willing to help you. The reality is, without those things, it’s highly possible you will get over there and have your baby taken anyway. I personally would never ever have been able to leave my other children in the UK and go abroad, though I genuinely did consider it out of absolute terror at one point.
Of course, there are other countries you could go and there are families who have successfully relocated; you have to do what you think is best for you. I can completely relate to the fear and the want to run. I can’t advocate it, but I can understand it. I would always always advise staying and fighting. I know of cases where the family has relocated, and the concerns that the LA have had end up showing themselves, and sometimes children have been at risk, or have been harmed. Conversely, I know of cases where the family has fled, and been able to keep their children – only to lose them again when they return to the UK. I chose to stay and fight, knowing they would take my newborn. Would I have done that if I had plenty of money, contacts abroad and no other children? Honestly, I can’t be sure.

Rule Number Eight
Expert Engagement
In my time, I’ve heard all sorts of wild theories about “Experts” and a parent’s engagement with them during Proceedings. First of all, the term “Expert” can be attributed to many Professionals; a Psychiatrist, a Psychologist, a Medical Examiner to name a few. However, the Court also views the Social Worker as an “Expert”. Some camps feel that the input of a Expert Witness during Proceedings is invaluable as they are independent and have nothing to gain regardless of their viewpoint. Other camps feel that, as Experts are paid quite well for their input into Proceedings, it makes sense for that Expert to support the LA’s position, as that would then lead to them being instructed again. It appears true that there are “professional witnesses”, and it seems it can be a lucrative career.
So, what does that mean for a parent going through Proceedings? On the one hand, you would be forgiven for wondering the point in engaging, if the Expert is a potential “professional witness”. On the other hand, what do you have to lose? One of the worst things that could ever happen to you has already happened, your children have been taken, surely you would do anything possible to have them returned?
My advice would always be to engage as much as possible with any and all Professionals. Whether you like it or not, these are the people who will hold sway with the Court – don’t make it difficult for yourself. Suesspiciousminds says in “what should you do if social services steal your children” never to underestimate the power of being likeable. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t challenge where necessary and appropriate, but it does mean that you might need to grit your teeth and make nice with the very people you know may stop your children coming home. A big ask, I know. Every time you want to lose it with these people, keep in the forefront of your mind that you are doing this for your children. If you’re asked to engage in Therapy, or counselling, or complete assessments, or courses – do them. Don’t even hesitate.

Rule Number Nine
Some people advise recording interactions with social workers and I have mixed feelings on this one. Part of me thinks that there is no reason why we shouldn’t record meetings, conferences, even telephone calls; if the social work practice is good then the social worker’s should have no issue with it. However, I do worry that it perpetuates the adversarial dynamic, and the “us and them”.
Louise Tickle, a freelance journalist, has investigated this issue and I would advise you to read her article here.
I would also advise you to read The Transparency Project’s guidance on recording meetings with social workers here.
What I would finally advise is to take a notebook and pen to every meeting and take notes as you’re going. It’s also useful, where possible, to have an advocate, support worker, family member or friend with you at these meetings who are also prepared to take notes, particularly where there are emotive issues being discussed. I would also advise that you keep a notepad next to your phone and don’t be afraid to ask the Social Worker to pause whilst you jot something down. It’s a very good idea to keep a daily journal of anything and everything during Proceedings. Keep a record of appointments, meetings and Hearings and what occurred when they are over. This can also help to give you a daily focus and will be invaluable when it comes to statements and Final Hearing.

Rule Number Ten
Keeping Mum
If you suspect a child is being abused, physically, emotionally, or sexually, it is always best to pass that information to professionals. Similarly, if you are a victim of domestic abuse, it is always best to seek help. There are a wealth of local and national organisations there to help. As a survivor of both, I can promise you that, as a child, all I wanted was protection. It does not automatically follow that you will lose your children to foster care. It is our duty and responsibility to ensure the next generation are safeguarded and protected. What you need to be able to demonstrate to the LA and the Court, is that you can safeguard and protect your child. Keeping it quiet to avoid LA involvement is not going to help.

Whilst I can’t promise that following these rules will ensure the safe return of your children, I can tell you that following this advice will be doing something productive to bring your children home. Care Proceedings are the fight of you life, so fight well.

36 thoughts on “10 Golden Rules to Survive Safeguarding

      1. I need help to get my child social is trying to push for legal guardian ship this January from his dad’s side of the family witch on males side was highly negative Im a single mam I have thought every second with social done everything they said they took my babie because I cried because a very close loved family member has weeks to live they used my mams past against me with I don’t see why I have to suffer through what someone else done I lived being a mam and I hope he still loves me he is 1years and 2 months I got asked to leave foster placement because of crying when my son was only 3 months old now he dosent know who I am social give children to the wrong people and take of the wrong people Carnt wait untill I get my perfect little boy back he’s apart of me that’s missing my happiness please someone help what do I do the case got closed for his dad’s side the family I got my last chance I’m never going to give up untill my son no longer wants me not even then all I want to do is be a mam . NO SOCIAL WORKERS

    1. Hi Sarah I survived this twice, they came after my daughter then they went after my two step children, I’m currently writing about my experiences and was wondering if you could contact me.

  1. Whilst considering a more detailed response, I wanted to immediately warn of the inaccuracy of the post relating to audio recordings. There have been a number of cases where audio recordings have been allowed into evidence to demonstrate perjury and an intent to pervert the course of justice by social workers. There are also cases where the parent(s) would have been jailed had they not recorded their meeting.

    I would strongly advise parents to record every encounter they have as parents are in no position to predict the future ethical conduct of their social workers.

    1. I accept your point of view but I haven’t heard of any cases of this type. I am not a lawyer, just a Mum.

          1. Just admit it, you are one of the cheating unethical self centered social worker. I agree with the post above.

          2. You seem to be one of the lucky parents to have such a positive relationship with SS, as there are very few that experience this.
            I have had children removed and returned and removed. I fled to Ireland to have my daughter because they wanted to adopt her at birth. I came back to live in uk with my 2 daughters. I have my eldest back from them but they wont give me my others back….
            For the last 6 years I’ve had social workers come and go, each with their personal opinions and input on my file. The lies and twistedness of each was plaintiff wrong! Some I can get on with others are just pompous arrogant, think they know it alls. Your rules are text book, Fairy tale as though you’ve been brainwashed by the system… these social services is the biggest child trafficking scandal ever. These secret courts, gagging orders and balance of probabilities not to mention their crystal ball method where they can predict the future. Please wake up hun.

    2. I am in compleat agreement, thank you for reminding everyone recordings are vital. I’m a parent and recording by dvd and audios have proved that the social workers and other profestionals have lied and didn’t need to threaten me with police action. I wish more people took the time to say clearly parents need every step along the way evidence to prove their innocence.

  2. When a child discloses sexual abuse, you report it to the relevant authorities and after lengthy proceedings your children are removed and given to the abuser….How do you get them back??

  3. Absolutely brilliant post. Being a SW is a privilege but it is sometimes hard to be proud of the system we are operating within. In whatever field we are working in, we are invited into peoples lives at a moment they are vulnerable, it is essential to wear our power lightly. It was great to hear your voice today and I can’t tell you how invaluable it is to be reminded of what it feels like to lose your baby. I have seen that done well and badly, like I say, hard to be proud sometimes.

    1. Hi Helen, thank you very much for your comments! Were you at the Conference? I confess I met tons of people, so forgive me if we did! I think you have a very valid point in terms of the power dynamic and the vulnerability of the service user. It is a massive responsibility, and I wonder if SW’s feel adequately prepared for dealing with real-life cases, instead of the textbook “Jane is 35 and has 3 children” etc. I am involved in facilitating workshops at a regional university and it’s the sort of thing I think benefits the SW’s greatly – we’re real people and our stories are true. I’d like to see more of that, and service users being involved in all aspects of SW degree/masters courses.

  4. We are on child protection at the moment re: safe guarding. Some good solid advice, wished I had read sooner. I did record a meeting and SS have lied on quite a few occasions. Never thought of writing notes down though. Start a diary but never seem to get the time to write in it. But will make the time.

  5. Excellent stuff! Great to hear such pragmatic and sensible advice from someone who’s been through this. As a social worker, I can say this whole deal is traumatic – not nearly as much as it is for the parents or the children, or course, but traumatic nonetheless. No-one wants to remove children, so working together is absolutely the best way to make this happen. More power to you, as you promote mature self-reflection by parents. I just wish all the social workers I meet were as sensible…

    1. Hi Jonny, thanks very much for your comment. I know it might sound like a Utopian idea, but I just think if both SW and SU were to try to accept the other and coexist, the children stuck in the middle would have the best chance. It’s not that I think the system isn’t flawed or that there aren’t poor SW’s out there, but equally there are poor parents with flawed parenting. Surely the children should be the most important thing. Thanks again for your support!

  6. Well done, I appreciate your courage and determination. It is clear you are clever and learned the La’s language to manage to navigate on their life.

    I have a question, as a parent our duty is to protect our children but why when it comes to incest, no one believe the mother. If the mother makes allegation of sexual
    Abuse, she looses the child to the abuser who is now free to abuse them more because she can no longer monitor the symptoms. How can a mother protect her child in this situation?

  7. I have just read all of your blog entries in one go this evening, transfixed by your story and your strength. As a foster carer, I spend a fair bit of time around the family members of children I am caring for, and I feel that what you say about attending contact, engaging with professionals and putting your children absolutely first are very vital points. I know that supervised contact is hard, and it is hard on the children too (we foster carers see the ‘fallout’ of grief, rage and anguish afterwards) but to me it seems a basic and fundamental thing that parents must engage with if they hope to have their children returned. I have lost count of the number of times contact has been cancelled at short notice or, even worse, the number of times we have sat in the contact centre waiting for a parent to turn up who never comes. It is heartbreaking. I understand there are many reasons why a parent might feel unable to face the contact sessions but they are so, so important. I hope that many parents read your advice and take it on board.

    1. Hello suddenlymummy, I follow you on Twitter and have a great deal of respect for you, so thank you for your kind comments. I personally cannot understand the parents that just do not turn up to contact and leave their children waiting. I can count on one hand the amount of times over three years I have missed contact and it has always been due to being too physically ill to attend. Funnily enough I would like one of my next posts to be about supervised contact and the best way to get through it as a family – would you consider putting something together from your point of view that I could add to my post? It would really help to have both sides if possible. Thanks again for your comments!

    2. Some battles are too painful, like literally intolerable. You have never experienced such living grief and torture and can easily say what needs to be done with the flippancy of ignorance. Obviously the parents of the child know what needs doing and if they could they would. Your judgement, from your position is just another knife in the stomach. The lady who tells her story at least had some positive LA experience on two proir supportive occasions to go with which helps. People’s mental health deteriorates as their world falls apart. As social workers lie and misinterprete and twist and if your not the likeable person they prefer to work with your doomed. This lady can sit back an make judgement about other mothers who haven’t been so successful but that doesn’t make them any worse mothers or more protective or their kids less safe they just might not of had the fight. Like she describes it us the fight if your life fighting the system for your own kids.

  8. You said you are a victim of sexual abuse so a survivor, but you did not reply to Anna Kornas post and you did not allow my comment about my own situation: how do mothers protect their children when no one want to listen to this kind of abuse and mothers (and children) are even punished by having their children transferred to the sexual abuser. I hope that as a survivor you know you have the responsibility to tell people incest exist and it is the most difficult abuse to prove. Because of people who has a voice because they have survived that and don’t use it, children are still harmed in the UK where child sexual abuse is “an epidemic” with 11.7 millions children abused. As a mother yourself who have been through the idiotic system, you perfectly known that mothers who make this kind of allegations rarely lie. I understand you have to focus on saving your children and getting your life back but please don’t forget you have a responsibility as a survivor. My prayers are with you. Ava

    1. Hello Ava, I did reply to Anna’s comment, she commented twice and I replied to the other. You can see my response here

      In respect of your own comments, I am sorry if you feel I have disregarded your previous comment; it was purely because of the way it was written, I felt it was inappropriate. However, on reflection, and on reading your comment above, I have made a mistake and done you a disservice, and for that I am sorry. I absolutely agree and know that there are mistakes made within the system – I read a story in the news yesterday where a celebrated foster carer who had been the recipient of awards was found guilty of sexually abusing girls within his care over a period of many years. Things like that, and like the situation you speak of are abhorrent and turn my stomach. So yes, I agree entirely that mistakes are indeed made, and some of my advice won’t be applicable to those situations.

      Whilst I agree I am a survivor of sexual abuse, I personally do not want to make that what defines me. It defined and destroyed me for too long and caused me to make many mistakes in my life. I don’t agree that I have a responsibility to tell people incest exists and I cannot take that on my shoulders, it’s not fair to ask me to do that. My agenda here is purely to help parents survive the child protection process in the way that is best for their children and them. I will invariably get it wrong here and there, but I’m only human. I hope that helps.

  9. An excellent site full of excellent and constructive advice. A very painful and distressing experience makes a parent feel vulnerable and helpless and lost in a fog with seemingly no way out. Keep adding to the site and much of the content is being passed on for a similar experience. Thank you

    1. Thank you so much for your comment Pat. My main aim is to try and give that constructive advice to parents, as when they are lost in the fog it can be very difficult to pinpoint the change that is needed, much less find ways to even begin to make the change. I hope this helps others and I’m very grateful to you for passing it on!

  10. I have been sitting now for an hour reading the 10 points you have written and as the mother of a daughter who has been caught up in this rather confusing system I have to say I am disgusted by the treatment she has received and feel truly overwhelmed by so call professionals dictating what will happen and one particular individual is in my opinion ‘power crazy’ . I have decided to take legal advice due to having a very bad feeling about the situation. I applaud your courage and as a mam of five, I know how I become a raging tiger when I think my children are in danger. My poor daughter who should be experiencing the magical journey the birth of her daughter should be is stressed beyond measure and feels she has no control over her life. Sad to say she is only now 18 weeks pregnant and I cannot believe what has happened. Suffice to say that so called professionals have been a tad economic with the truth using scare tactics to bring about a child in need meeting. I will continue to follow thank you so much for your sound advice.

  11. My grand daughter is going through hell at present, her 18 month old daughter was taken from her by the father, not because he wants her but because his mom has wanted the baby from birth. My grand daughter I admit was not living a brilliant lifestyle but neither was the father when they were together , she has totally turned her life around now but has to wait for the court to decide when she gets her baby back, the system IS flawed , it’s not looked at the father and his family and the lies and exagerations they have told about my grand daughter. They made it all about her but one thing I can advise is that if you can afford it do get a Mc Kenzie friend for court they are marvellous.

  12. My children where taking away by social workers and all of my kids social worker try to say we didn’t feed our kids but all of them are not under weight all of them are proper weight and height for ages no makes of any kind on them children asked to see us and not allowed social worker say children are scared of us more bullshit this is all bout them getting permanency that’s all they care about and telling lies and more bullshit this has been going for 2 years now

  13. Thank you Sarah I’m currently going through my son taking into care I’m fighting to get him back and fighting to keep my unborn child. I strongly agree with looking over everything you sign as my social worker just put papers in front of me not explaining anything properly haven’t even given me a chance I been given the same social who had a part in my friend taking her own life.

  14. I have just turned 19 I have a 3month old son that social have removed from my care they pulled a very sneaky trick to do this and have been lying and twisting things to make it stick but I have proven them wrong time after time, so they are trying more and more things to try and go against me but so far it isn’t working I am slowly pulling through, it is the hardest thing I have ever been through and I have been through so much already, i went from being with my baby 24/7 to seeing him for 3hrs a week even tho I done everything for him they tried to say otherwise I have bought everything for him that was needed and I can take care of him every way I am supposed to and I have done but its little things you do that can mess up all the good you are doing ( example), I got attackt by 4 people and was forced to defend myself, they said I shouldn’t have hit these people even tho I have a disabled foot and couldn’t run away so I had no choice but to defend myself, I debated this with them for about an hour, I have not yet heard back from them on the matter hopefully I am in the clear but this is a good example because even if you have no choice but to do somthing it will get used against you so be careful. Also the internet is a terrible place to get advice you need to get a good solicitor and they will help you with everything you need help with the one thing I do agree with tho is record everything because they have tried to twist everything I say and even try to put words in my mouth I have had multiple debates with them luckily my mother done 40yrs in law and helps me put them straight but it doesn’t stop them trying. (I hope this was helpful, hopefully in a couple months I will be able to comment and say everything was sorted out and i have him back, dont go looking for your answers on the internet it has a very high chance of misleading you and making things worse).

  15. Im a mum a victum of domestic abuse and ive just practial lost my kids to the perpotrator and the court have allowed it and social services have shat on me and made dad to be the bees knees…..i followed the rules worked with the LA and that was the outcome. LA are so fucked up cause shit for families and dont see the real thing infront of them

  16. I have been through the same my kids been taken away because false allegations made by the social worker who was very much a racist person she never liked me and she hardly came to my property to see me and my kids. She wouldn’t even talk to my kids more likely she would just stare with funny face I wish I could go back record everything she said that would be my greatest evidence. I currently have a social who is currently the same as the previous uneducated social worker who doesn’t have kids what would she know about kids needs? With my personal experience they all the same no matter how nice you wanna be she thinks she did a great job by putting fake allegations on me. She supports my ex who is a violent and a abuser who neglected my kids and abused me and beat me front of my loving kids she feels he is a safe person where kids can be with, them they all know he was the reason of all these mess! I suffered so much they can’t see that he never helped or supported me towards anything he financially abused me as well. I told her that I want my kids to be with my mother she reported that my mother, sister and brother all are negative without good evidence. My son has said many times that she goes to his home late at night around 11pm alone in his living room talking and also seen she received some cash from him which I was shocked about! I did report it but they accusing me of lying making things up! So I wish I had recordings of everything I regret this! No wonder she’s being all lovey dovey towards him plus his the one who came through my visa never studied in his whole life and neither speaks English? And they support the violent man. I just want my kids back all four of them, their plan is 3 of my kids go to him which I brought up myself for last 13 years, my baby who is 2 and half years. They say my toddlers spent most of his life with foster Carer when they took him around 1 and 5 months in my care he was absolutely fine no health problems with any of kids. I did all my courses and assessment which they said first part of assessment with supervision was positive and second part negative without supervision? Most of assessments was positive did everything I can with all four of my kids as a single mother. And the abuser violent man gets to have my two boys one 13 and other 10 and my daughter who’s 12 doesn’t want to go to him because she has witnessed violence she don’t feel safe around him they are still forcing my daughter to go to him when they know that his a rapist sexually seeks for women’s. why on would someone let a person who is violent, rapist, druggy and verbally abusive around innocent kids? he hasn’t done any educational activities with them all he did is talk about games that’s all and become positive. And I spent most of the time with all of my kids did educational activities and cooked food and I became the negative one? It’s been over 1 year and 2 months since my kids been removed from my care I never missed any contacts, don’t work or receive enough income but I still managed to buy things and do birthday parties for my kids borrowed money from families and literally paying for two bedroom tax which has gone over my rent arrears they don’t care how much you try or how much you suffer that’s not their problem they got their promotion. I live my life like single a person and I hate it I want my kids back! May God help me with this journey of suffer!

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